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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #10604 by Sternas Stefanos
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We release LAB CodeTyphon 6.10 Revision 006030 BETA1
Please test and report...

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #10605 by usbdoo
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Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (jessie)
Cross Compiling on Rasppery pi 2 not work
Program compile ok.
But when start program I get

HandleExeption error reading fmtest.Left: Unknown propert y: "Left"
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1 year 6 months ago #10608 by Klaus Riesterer
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I think it's a really bad idea to rename the project file extensions.
It makes it more difficult to take part on the fpc community and complicates teamwork.

Please add tiOPF-framework, it's really great and platform independent !
github.com/graemeg/tiopf/tree/tiopf2
github.com/graemeg/tiopf_apps

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1 year 6 months ago #10609 by Dinko
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> I think it's a really bad idea to rename the project file extensions.
> It makes it more difficult to take part on the fpc community and complicates teamwork.

I would say that I agree with statements above

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1 year 6 months ago #10610 by Michal
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Already rename package was bad, and the current change of names of the projects even worse.

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1 year 6 months ago #10611 by Klaus Riesterer
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Principle the package renames makes sense and should also be done in lazarus!

But I think PilotLogic takes not really part at the community. They take what they can but less is coming back.
Please don't misunderstand - I really like CT and in the moment I work with, but it should - in (file and package) base - always be compatible with Lazarus.
It has less sense to change classnames and filenames in CT - the projects can never more opened with Lazarus.
Such things should be independent from both - Lazarus and CT!

I think it's time now to change to the original: Lazarus

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1 year 6 months ago #10614 by Sternas Stefanos
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Guys, thanks for your posts

We have big plans, old Lazarus file formats can't support our vision...
We must go on

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1 year 6 months ago #10615 by Dinko
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In that case, go on. You know what you need.
Main reason, for me, to keep compatibility with Lazarus, is ability to switch back to stable FPC and stable Lazarus in case something happen to PilotLogic.
Therefore, I try to program simple and not use all features of language and libraries, because I do not know PilotLogic plans for the future and Lazarus plans for the future.
So far (and I use PilotLogic for 3 years in production), I was always able to find fix or workaround for some problems (thanks to the PilotLogic people, and, also FPC/lazarus forums).
BTW, it will be great that you somehow enable us to choose between trunk FPC and stable FPC during installation.

For me it is crucial to maintain stability of product (I think 6.00 is most stable so far), because I have services and applications that runs 24/7 and 365 days per year.

Generally speaking I think FPC/Delphi is loosing surviving war, because young people rather use some other tools and programming languages. It is a shame, because FPC is fast, works on lot of platforms ... (old programmers knows pro and cons).

Personally I like to use FPC on server side (which is not very usual case), and I think we need only few things to put into standard FPC that will make Pascal shine again. This is something like interpropcess communication libraries (0mq or nanomsg). We also need support for distributed systems, translation of Kafka C libraries, support for some key value databases (Mongo) and so on.
Because Pascal is great language and enforce programmer to write quality code (declare variables), and solve many problems at compile time (unlike nodejs, php and some other script languages), I think it is great for server side programming (especially, lets say, stable server side programming)

Anyhow, CodeTyphon is great tools and it is good to have something like this in Pascal world.

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #10616 by Johnathan Dhoe
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Sternas Stefanos wrote: Guys, thanks for your posts

We have big plans, old Lazarus file formats can't support our vision...
We must go on


What are you talking about? The new files are EXACTLY the same as the old ones, just with different extensions.
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1 year 6 months ago #10617 by Sternas Stefanos
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We will add code from CT ver 6.40 Sir
Next CT ver 6.10 it's only a step

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1 year 5 months ago #10618 by Sternas Stefanos
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Dinko wrote: .....
Anyhow, CodeTyphon is great tools and it is good to have something like this in Pascal world.


Thanks Sir

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1 year 5 months ago #10619 by Klaus Riesterer
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Sternas Stefanos wrote: We will add code from CT ver 6.40 Sir
Next CT ver 6.10 it's only a step


To get the people using CT you should us tell a little about the vision !

When there is no way back to Lazarus/FPC, it should be fair to get some more information to decide witch tool to use.

As I wrote above: I like CT!

So give us reasons to cold-shoulder Lazarus in the future.

And another question here: Will CT be always free of charge?

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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #10620 by Sternas Stefanos
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Sir
First of All, here in PilotLogic all programmers know that this subject is very serious.

1) Pilotlogic it's a Software House.
A group of REAL programmers (5-6 Core team members and 20-40 partial team members)
and we keep all our promises.

2) We want a Free Programming Studio for ALL programmers,
so, CodeTyphon i'ts FREE and Open Source and will remain FREE and Open Source.
and only one zip version, NO "Professional" or "Architect" or any other version
This "Mapet Show" :lol: must stop in Pascal Programming World.

3) We make money from our applications, NOT from the programming studio (CodeTyphon) or from Components Libraries.

4) Object Pascal Is the most Powerful programming Lang,
but has bad luck with Commercial philosophy programmers.
And this must stop.

5) We will continue with the same passion and with more help from CodeTyphon users (I hope).

After this "Manifest" my friend, do you want more...

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1 year 5 months ago #10621 by Klaus Riesterer
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Sternas Stefanos wrote: After this "Manifest" my friend, do you want more...


I can not get enough ;-)

What you wrote sounds really great. You have convinced me!
I believe on this base I can carry on my work with CT

Thank you for the clarification!

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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #10622 by Sternas Stefanos
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Sir
have fun...
and don't forget we want your help...

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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #10623 by usbdoo
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My focus is software arm.
(raspberry pi,orang pi and the like)


I'm a little worried.
Long time no solution of the problem of cross-compile rasspery p
www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php/fo...-pi-2-not-work#10541

what there future cross-compile-arm CT arm rasppery PI?

what is the vision of android development ond CT?
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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #10624 by Sternas Stefanos
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Sir

We will continue cross-compile-arm support and
we are waiting for more arm64 boards and OSes.
(Pi3 has arm64 hardware but use arm32 OS)
We want to port Codetyphon on arm64 OS.

We will continue and android development but we are waiting for the pascal community...
yes yes,
android-ndk or jvm-android or both ?
and more open source.
We don't have any Android java API expert here, yet :blush:

We test many things here in our LAB but some of then with NO success ...

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1 year 5 months ago #10625 by usbdoo
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Thans thanks for the reply.


(Pi3 has arm64 hardware but use arm32 OS)

GNU/Linux 8.0 Jessie rasspbian pi 2 LXDE and Orange pi zero LXDE
GNU/Linux 8.7 Jessie rasspbian pi 2 LXDE and Orange pi zero LXDE



here is the use of
use arm32 OS

CT 5.80 64-bit OK
CT 5.90 64-bit OK


here in CT arm32 OS

I get such results:
www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php/fo...-pi-2-not-work#10541
CT 6.00 64-bit Not Ok
CT 6.10 64-bit Not Ok


Problem is CT debian64 cross compile arm32 OS

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1 year 5 months ago #10626 by Sternas Stefanos
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Thanks Sir
we will solve and this problem
please, give us time...

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1 year 5 months ago #10634 by German Pablo Gentile
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Please when will you release a Ct ide running on raspberry pi 3? I have trunk lazarus running there from years. Why can't do that? Please let me know. Is the only way to debug some low levels app. Remote debugging ever work.

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